Catholic and Loving it!

  • Home
  • Archive
  • Links
  • RSS Subscribe

Ella and James Preece are a Catholic couple living in Kingston Upon Hull in Yorkshire in the UK. This is our blog.

  • ella@lovingit.co.uk
  • james@lovingit.co.uk
  • RSS Subscribe
  • Email Updates

sprites header-background page-background sidebar-backgrounds body-background footer-background-repeater

NOTICE: CHANGE OF WEB HOST

If you can read this then I have successfully finished moving my blog to my new hosting company. There will almost certainly be bugginess somewhere - please let me know if you see any!

The Tablet Survey - Good Catholics

Blogged by James Preece on 4th September 2008

It's been a while since I wrote about the survey in The Tablet. After asking about reasons for going to Mass The Tablet asked three questions beginning with the words "I can be a good Catholic without..."

Not so very long ago I saw a comic strip in which a man confessed to killing his wife and asked: "Does that make me a bad person?" It's become a bit of a catchphrase for relativists. "Bad People" are evil people like Hitler and the Spanish Inquisition. I cheated on the test, but I'm not a Bad Person. I stole from my mum, but I'm not a Bad Person. I don't go to mass, but I'm not a Bad Catholic. I'm a Good Catholic.

These figures are unhelpful without some kind of definition of a "good Catholic" and since everybody was left to define that for themselves I expect "a good Catholic" ended up pretty synonymous with "me", because "I'm not a bad person".

Percentage of people who strongly agree or agree by age...

"I can be a good Catholic without the Sacrament of Confession"

18-3536-4546-65over 65
43%52%49%43%

"I can be a good Catholic without going to weekly Mass"

18-3336-4546-65over 65
39%45%34%27%

"I can be a good Catholic without marrying in the Church"

18-3536-4546-65over 65
34%45%38%25%

These questions are badly worded by the silly Tablet people because clearly there are exceptions. Can you be a good Catholic without the Sacrament of Confession? of course you can... if you are six. Can you be a good Catholic without weekly mass? yes... if you are housebound. Can you be a good Catholic without marrying in Church? My friend Ben hopes so, he got a dispensation from the Bishop. If you can't be a good Catholic without marrying in the Church then it's game over for Ben (and so young...)

I'm going to assume these questions include hidden qualifiers along the lines of "if you are able bodied and above the age of reason" and I'm going to ignore the last one because it's stupid.

43% of Catholics say you can be a good Catholic without the Sacrament of Confession. 43% of Catholics are wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. 43% of Catholics have been cheated and lied to by priests who say (actual quote) "You don't need to go to confession, you haven't sinned, not real sins." Oh, that's okay then.

39% say you can be a good Catholic without going to weekly mass. If you can get to mass, then no, you can't be a good Catholic without going to weekly mass. Does that make you a bad person? I don't know, why don't you go to confession and ask?

These answers are depressing. I note with interest the 39% of respondents who say you can be a good Catholic without going to weekly mass. Is that the same four in ten that don't come to mass mass every week?

Relativistic thinking is engrained in our culture. Earlier this year I wrote to a priest about a liturgical abuse and as part of his response he said "But seriously James, there are so many greater wrongs in the world on which to exercise our Christian concern, such as the wrongs of genocide, abortion and war in our world. In the face of such wrongs, I don't think this is a major breach (if a breach it is at all) which need overly preoccupy you.".

But seriously, this argument is false. We need to ditch the relativism. The fact that skipping a mass is not as bad as rape does not make it okay. Our entire culture justifies itself on not being as bad as some other comparably worse thing. This is how cohabitation, divorce, contraception and even abortion become so readily accepted, because I'm not a bad person, because I haven't actually tortured somebody to death.

Priests need to teach (with qualifiers of course, the housebound etc) that if you don't go to mass every week, you need to seriously entertain the notion that perhaps you are not a good Catholic but they need to explain that they are not therefore writing you off as completely evil. To be honest, I think it's time we dropped the term 'good Catholic'. We're all of us sometimes good and sometimes bad.

In Fit For Mission - Church [PDF] the Bishop of Lancaster puts it this way...

As your bishop, observing this forgetfulness taking place among us has been a source of great sadness to me:

  • Those who ignore their responsibility to God and neighbour forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who deliberately miss Sunday Mass forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who never pray forget they are Catholic.
    Those who deny they are sinners and avoid confession forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who live oblivious to the suffering of the poor forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who dissent from the authority of the Church forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who use contraception, IVF and embryonic stem cell research forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who use pornography forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who have sex outside of marriage forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who commit homosexual acts forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who exploit their power and position forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who cheat on benefits or taxes forget they are Catholic.
  • Those employers who exploit their workforce forget they are Catholic.
  • Those who have racist, sexist or homophobic attitudes forget they are Catholic.

According to The Tablet, 43% of Catholics forget they are Catholic. Looking at that list, I reckon all of us forget at times. I wonder when our Priests are going to start reminding us.

Rate this blogentry:+-

  • RSS Subscribe
  • Email Updates

Make us happy...

  •  Tweet This!
  •  Share via Facebook
  •  Bookmark
  •  Digg it!

Related Items:

  • The Tablet Survey - Music and the Community
  • The Tablet Survey
  • Fr Daniel O'Leary
  • The Public Conversation
  • Spreading the word...

This Item Tagged With:

  • Surveys
  • The Tablet

Leave a Comment:

Name: (required)

Email: (required - will not be displayed)

Website: (optional)

Comment: Allowed tags: <a>,<strong>,<em>,<b>,<i>,<blockquote>


Year for Priests

Recent Comments

Yet Another Birmingham Oratory Parishioner

I cannot understand how the kangaroo court which seems to have sat at dead of night in the Birmingham Oratory in order...

Sarah

Fr Fenlon speaks of "the counterfeit doctrine of conscience". This can be seen overtly at 'Catholics for Choice' and...

alison

One can only imagine that their fate was sealed long before that night. No such thing as justice in the world of...

Rosie

The following quote from Fr Fenlon's talk (see full text) struck me when thinking about those who have mis-treated the...

Rosie

Locums, thankyou for this. Please publish more of Fr Fenlon's work - this is so relevant.

When someone gives you a gift reply with Thank You Cards. When our Father God gives you a gift reply by living through his will. And acting with kindness and love.

Ceramic Wedding Band

To the Blessed Virgin Prayer for England

O Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God and our most gentle Queen and Mother, look down in mercy upon England thy "Dowry" and upon us all who greatly hope and trust in thee.

By thee it was that Jesus our Saviour and our hope was given unto the world; and He has given thee to us that we might hope still more.

Plead for us thy children, whom thou didst receive and accept at the foot of the cross.

O sorrowful Mother! intercede for our separated brethren, that with us in the one true fold they may be united to the supreme Shepherd, the Vicar of thy Son.

Pray for us all, dear Mother, that by faith fruitful in good works we may all deserve to see and praise God, together with thee, in our heavenly home.

Amen.

Couple's Prayer

O God, our heavenly Father, protect and bless us. Deepen and strengthen our love for each other day by day.

Grant that by thy mercy, neither of us may ever say one unkind word to the other. Forgive and correct our faults, and make us constantly to forgive one another should one of us unconsciously hurt the other.

Make us and keep us sound and well in body, alert in mind, tender in heart, and devout in spirit. O Lord, grant us each to rise to the other's best. Then, we pray thee, add to our common life such virtues as only thou canst give.

And so, O Father, consecrate our life and love completely to thy worship, and to the service of all about us, especially those whom thou hast appointed us to serve, that we may always stand before thee in happiness and peace; through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Amen.

Babies Bedtime Prayer

Father, thankyou for all the good things that have happened to me today.

Thankyou for keeping me safe and well, thankyou for fun and laughter with my friends, thank you for what I have learned, thank you for all those that I love.

Help us all to sleep soundly tonight.

Amen.

Tag Cloud

  • Abortion
  • Ad Orientem
  • Advent
  • Advent Calendar
  • All That I Am
  • Archbishop Vincent Nichols
  • Art
  • B3ta
  • Babies
  • Bishop Patrick O'Donoghue
  • Bishop Terence Drainey
  • Br Lewis Berry
  • Brother Lewis Berry
  • cakes
  • Cartoons
  • Catholic Education Services
  • Catholic Schools
  • Catholic Youth Work
  • Christmas
  • Clerical Abuse
  • comics
  • Condoms
  • Confession
  • Connexions
  • Contraception
  • Creation
  • CYMFed
  • Death
  • Evangelisation
  • Flash Games
  • Fr Dermot Fenlon
  • Fr Patrick Day
  • Fr Philip Cleevely
  • Fr William Massie
  • Fun
  • Fundraising
  • GK Chesterton
  • Gregorian Chant
  • History
  • Holiness
  • Humanae Vitae
  • Jack Valero
  • Joanna Bogle
  • Last Supper
  • Latin
  • Laurence England
  • Lego
  • Lent
  • Leona
  • Liturgy
  • LiveChastely
  • Mark Shea
  • Marriage
  • Marriage and Family Life
  • Marriage Care
  • Married Love
  • Mary Symbol of the Church
  • Middlesbrough Cathedral
  • Middlesbrough Diocese
  • Music
  • National Youth Sunday
  • Oona Stannard
  • Optical Illusions
  • Papal Visit
  • Parables
  • Pope Benedict XVI
  • Prayer
  • Puns
  • reredos
  • Richard Dawkins
  • Sacraments
  • Sacraments and Sacramentality
  • Saint Marys College Hull
  • Sex Education
  • Sign of the Cross
  • Suffering
  • Terry Prendergast
  • The Big Questions
  • The Birmingham Oratory
  • The Birmingham Three
  • The Tablet
  • Traditionalists
  • Vocations
  • Who do you say I am?
  • Why Bother
  • World Youth Day
  • York
  • Youth Sunday
  • Youtube

Saint Michael - Pray For Us!

Saint Mary - Pray For Us!

We Love Teh Berfs! We Love Teh Little Lambses!

GK Chesterton!

We Love Popple!

Saint Claire of Assisi - Pray For Us! Saint Francis of Assisi - Pray For Us!

We Love Zelda!

St Jerome - Pray For Us!

Disclaimers

Content Disclaimer

The contents of this website and blog are provided for your personal use only. No warranty or guarantee is provided as to the accuracy or suitability of the information and materials found on these pages. Any information posted may contain inaccuracies or errors and no liability for any such inaccuracies or errors is accepted by the author. Your use of this website and blog is entirely at your own risk and the author accepts no liability. Links to external websites are provided for your convenience and do not signify endorsement of the linked content. No responsibility is accepted for the content of external website.

Comments Disclaimer

Comments on this blog are unmoderated and the presence of a comment cannot be interpreted as meaning that I approve of that comment. I reserve the absolute right to remove at any time without explanation any comment posted on this blog. I do not accept any legal responsibility for the content of any comment unless I have refused to delete the comment following a complaint that I have expressly determined to be invalid. Any such complaint must be in writing and set out in full the grounds for the deletion of the comment. They should be sent to james@lovingit.co.uk Furthermore, any such complaint will only be accepted if made from an open email address that clearly identifies the person making the complaint. For purposes of verification, any complaint must also contain both telephone and postal contact details for the complainant. I shall reply to any such complaint within 7 days confirming what will be done with the comment objected to.

Images Disclaimer

All images and photography on this blog are the property of the author except where stated. Credited images are used under license or with permission or under the fair dealing provisions of copyright law (e.g. for the purposes of criticism or review). If you are the owner or the licensor of an image on this blog and you believe I have misused your image please contact me. Furthermore, any such complaint will only be accepted if made from an open email address that clearly identifies the person making the complaint. For purposes of verification, any complaint must also contain both telephone and postal contact details for the complainant. I shall reply to any such complaint within 7 days confirming what will be done with the disputed image or photography.