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Inexorably distancing themselves from the Church

Blogged by James Preece on 10th August 2009

Pope John Paul II had "Culture of Death", Pope Benedict XVI has "Dictatorship of Relativism". All the coolest of ecclesiastical cats have their catchphrases and Archbishop Vincent Nichols is no different.

Last week in an interview with the Catholic Herald he said...

"Most troubling of all to my mind is the mindset that somebody might get caught into, because perhaps they don't like some aspect of how the Mass is being celebrated or the music that's been chosen or something, that they begin to turn their back on the Church's ordinary pattern of prayer, the ordinary form of the Mass and say: 'I can't accept that.' That's really quite serious, because if they can't accept that then they are inexorably distancing themselves from the Church."

[Catholic Herald]

This weeks editorial in The Tablet carries the following quote from a foreword the he wrote for a Latin Mass training conference...

Archbishop Nichol gives no shred of encouragement to those who want the Tridentine Rite to replace the newer version. Conference participants “will wholeheartedly celebrate the Mass in each of these forms”, he instructs them bluntly, adding: “The view that the ordinary form of the Mass, in itself, is in some way deficient finds no place here.” People who hold that view are “inexorably distancing themselves from the Church”, he says.

The Tablet

There's a few things I find interesting here.

The word "inexorably" is very strong. A quick google gives me the following definition of inexorable...

in⋅ex⋅o⋅ra⋅ble [in-ek-ser-uh-buhl]

-adjective

1. unyielding; unalterable: inexorable truth; inexorable justice.

2. not to be persuaded, moved, or affected by prayers or entreaties: an inexorable creditor.

[Reference.com]

So the Archbishop talks not just of distancing oneself from the Church but of doing so in a way that is "unalterable". I find it difficult to believe he means that (perhaps inexorable means different things to different people) because I'm not sure it's even theologically possible to distance oneself from the Church in a way that is "unalterable" this side of the grave.

I assume he means something more along the lines of "in a way that is very serious".

Then we have the phrase "distancing themselves from the Church" is very weak. Is it a euphemism for "separating themselves from the Church"? I mean, how do you distance yourself from something without separating yourself from it?

The whole phrase put together ends up meaning "very seriously separating themselves from the Church" which sounds an awful lot like a way of saying "excommunication" without actually saying it.

The first time these seriously separated people are those who "begin to turn their back on the Church's ordinary pattern of prayer, the ordinary form of the Mass and say: 'I can't accept that.'" and the second time it's those holding "The view that the ordinary form of the Mass, in itself, is in some way deficient"

He seems to be directing these words at traditionalists, the first time he was answering an interview question about the extraordinary form, the second time writing to priests at a Latin Mass training conference. But come on! Who is really turning their back on the ordinary form of the Mass? Who really thinks it is deficient?

It might apply to a small minority of traditionalists, but on the whole this applies far more literally to Fr Fun with his "the Mass is deficient, I need to fix it by changing the words" mentality. I've written extensively about this (here) but it seems to me that the Archbishop and all the Bishops of England and Wales are complicit in this by their wholesale widespread turning of a blind eye and even in many cases joining with the abuses themselves.

Finally, I find it interesting who he is not saying it to.

Why did we not read in the newspapers that Archbishop Vincent Nichols thinks Terry Prendergast is inexorably distancing himself from the Church?

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Mark Dobson said...

'The whole phrase put together ends up meaning "very seriously separating themselves from the Church" which sounds an awful lot like a way of saying "excommunication" without actually saying it.'

Um, I think this is a bit tenuous, still more because the phrase itself is a result of guesswork and extrapolation on your part.

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James said...

In fairness to me though, my "guesswork and extrapolation" consists only of replacing the word "distancing" with "separating" (not a major change) and attempting to define "inexorably".

By any of the definitions I can find, "inexorably" is quite a serious thing for an Archbishop to say, I thought I was being moderate and charitable by interpreting it only as "seriously" and not as "irrevocably".

Is it really that big a leap to go from "inexorably distancing themselves" to "excommunicating themselves"?

The two phrases look pretty similar to me.

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Mark Dobson said...

No, I think you're right about ruling out a literal definition of "inexorably". (Inconceivable!)

On the other hand, I'm not sure the word does rule out repentance exactly. The second definition from dictionary.com, for example, could refer to a temporary state of affairs.

Yes, it is a big leap, because excommunication has a very precise definition.

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James said...

I suppose just as I didn't take "inexorably" literally, I probably shouldn't take "distancing themselves" literally.

Normally to be "distant" you have to be "separate" but I expect in Archbishop-speak it means something more along the lines of "moving towards the edge".

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Fr Patrick Brennan said...

What is a traditionalist?

What/Who is Fr Fun?

Are you sure it is a "Latin Mass" training conference?

Do people just lapse because of liturgy issues?

I love your certainty....

cer·tain·ty (sûrtn-t)
n. pl. cer·tain·ties
1. The fact, quality, or state of being certain: the certainty of death.
2. Something that is clearly established or assured: "On the field of battle there are no certainties" (Tom Clancy).

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Mark Dobson said...

I think that it's a Latin Mass training conference is clear from the Tablet's article.

That's on the assumption that a Tridentine Mass is necessarily a Latin Mass, which I think is true, though I'm happy to be corrected.

I also don't think that James demonstrates the degree of certainty that you're attributing to him. The whole thing's peppered with words like "assume" and "think" &c.

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Fr Patrick Brennan said...

I thought it was training on the EF form of the Mass but I could be wrong too.

I assume one can use whatever condiments one likes when writing on a blog!

I am not making any judgment just enjoying reading the blog.

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Agellius said...

One definition of "inexorable" given by my Outlook dictionary is "adamant and pitiless". I suspect the Archbishop meant something like that.

Nevertheless I think James makes a fair inference when he says that, coming from an Archbishop, and combined with the word "distancing", it sounds like people who declare the new mass to be deficient are in danger of incurring an anathema or something.

I still wonder why he doesn't equally scold those who find the traditional mass deficient.

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