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Throwing his weight around

Blogged by James Preece on 12th August 2009

A recent editorial in The Tablet (I blogged about it here) reported on Archbishop Vincent Nichols having written to Priests attending a training conference in the Extraordinary Form. The folks at the Tablet could hardly contain their joy at the way Archbishop Nichols had given those snivelling traddies a good talking to.

Shortly afterwards Fr Tim Finigan wrote about it saying that The Tablet had it all wrong...

The editorial rightly notes that the Archdiocese of Westminster has sponsored the training course offered by the Latin Mass Society but instead of drawing the obvious conclusion that the usus antiquior is therefore entering the mainstream of ecclesiastical life in England, it presents this as a "control" issue; a claim that the Archdiocese of Westminster might find mildly insulting.

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I wasn't sure. Had the folks at The Tablet picked out some juicy quotes to make it look like Archbishop Nichols was saying what they want him to say or did they have it right? Without seeing the full text of what Archbishop Nichols said, it's hard to say.

The New Liturgical Movement now have the full text and as I like Fr Tim Finigan, I have to say I think he has it wrong this time.

Considering the way our Bishops are usually so careful to avoid treading on anybody's toes, this is a strongly worded letter. In fact, this is one of the strongest worded letters I have seen from the hand of an English Bishop.

Priests’ Residential Training Conference, 24-28 August 2009
All Saints Pastoral Centre, London Colney, Herts

Message from the Most Reverend Vincent Nichols Archbishop of Westminster.

I welcome this short Training Conference provided by the Diocese of Westminster in conjunction with the Latin Mass Society. This is the correct description of this event. In both the teaching and law of the Church it is the bishop who has responsibility for the provision and oversight of the Liturgy.

In the Motu Proprio ‘Summorum Pontificum’ Pope Benedict permitted the use of the 1962 Form of the Mass, under clearly defined circumstances. In doing so he insisted that there is one Rite of the Mass in the Latin Church. This makes clear that the ordinary Form of the Mass and this extraordinary Form serve one and the same Rite. They are, therefore, both finding their place in this Summer School and participants will wholeheartedly celebrate the Mass in each of these Forms.

The view that the ordinary Form of the Mass, in itself, is in some way deficient finds no place here. Indeed anyone who holds such a view does not come under the generous provision of ‘Summorum Pontificum’. Such a person is inexorably distancing themselves from the Church.

The Mass is the source and expression of the unity of the Church, for that unity comes from Christ. We have no other. Our unity does not consist in a uniformity of personal use or preference. Indeed, such matters should play a minimum part in our liturgy, particularly in the ministry of the priest. What we priests are to provide, as a key element of our ministry, is the Liturgy of the Church.

The established principle of good liturgy – such as the ‘active participation’ of all taking part in the Mass, in both the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist – apply whichever Form of the Mass is being used. This principle needs careful consideration and application by every celebrant and any who help in the preparation of the liturgy. I trust it will find its place in this Summer School.

Pope Benedict has given an additional and delicate task to priests and bishops: the provision of the extraordinary Form of the Mass in response to genuine needs as outlined in the Motu Proprio. I am grateful to you all for helping us to respond to this task, always within the work of sustaining and nurturing the unity of the Church.

+Vincent Nichols
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I'm not sure how anybody can read this and say it is not a "control" issue, the Archbishops meaning is very clear. he is the Bishop and the conference is under his control.In both the teaching and law of the Church it is the bishop who has responsibility for the provision and oversight of the Liturgy.

It's good to see the heroic Archbishop Vincent Nichols laying the smackdown on some seriously dangerous traditionalists. See how he confidently shows them who is the boss. What a guy.

In a moment the big boys from Marriage Care will be coming and Little Vinny will be sure to cross over to the other side of the road in order to avoid passing too close. He will shuffle along awkwardly keeping his eyes to the ground. After all, nobody would want a run in with Terry "Knuckleduster" Prendergast.

Why doesn't Archbishop Vincent Nichols do something about Terry Prendergast? Is it because Bishops are supposed to keep their nose out of marriage? Or is it that he just worried that they might take away his lunch money.

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Fr. Anonymous said...

The bloggers appear to be holding a firm line at the moment which is that +Vincent is a Conservative and that we have got the guy we wanted in Westminster. This line has been generated by Damian Thompson (whose games and schemes in the run up to an appointment in Westminster were frankly sickening) and he is sticking firmly to it, with most other bloggers supporting him, or at least not upsetting the apple cart by disagreeing.
I am forced to speculate as to how long they can maintain this line without looking frankly ridiculous.
You, James, are the only one of the serious bloggers brave enough to see the man for what he truly is, and for that you are to be commended highly.
Vincent Nichols is a liberal to the core and needs exposing as such, in spite of his cleaver politics which have managed to fool Thompson and co.

Anonymous Parish Priest (Arundel & Brighton)

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Ches said...

I think you'll find I was making just this argument a couple of days ago, Fr Anonymous. Thompson is playing politics.

http://thesensiblebond.blogspot.com/2009/08/nichols-odeon.html

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John Oliver said...

Good post Father. However, you have not addressed James Preece's point contrasting Archbishop Nichols' firm line concerning the L.M.S. training conference with his lack of any move against Terry Prendergast of Marriage Care. The Archbishop's silence regarding Terry Prendergast is worrying for many Catholics.

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John Oliver said...

Apologies for above post.

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NC said...

I can't get overly excited about the Extraordinary Form, but it obviously means a lot to those who do.

One can't help but admire the attempts by adherents to the EF to put a (loyal) positive spin on Achb. Knuckle's forward, but they fail to convince me. Its tone is underwhelming in so many ways.

Of course, the fact that the Supreme Pontiff hasn't so far publicly 'done the deed' hasn't really helped. I know a few (youngish) priests who are waiting for this to happen before they knuckle down to Latin studies, buy a (new) biretta, learn maniple etiquette and get their knees in training for the multiple genuflections that would be required of them.

Our parish priest removed the Marriage Care information from the noticeboard recently. It has no place in a Catholic church. I think Cafod will be the next to go.

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Peter Porter said...

I think before you get too censorious about Archbishop Nichols and the LMS training conference you should look at Shawn Tribe's post on the New Liturgical Movement blog and the ensuing comments. This matter is not as straightforward as you imply.

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James said...

There is nothing in Shawn's article for me to disagree with, but he and I are asking and answering different questions.

He is looking at this letter the way all the traditional blogs have been looking at it: Is there anything in this letter that we cannot accept? They read the letter, compare it with Summorum Pontificum etc and as you say it is not a straightforward matter but in the end they have all concluded that no, there is nothing in the letter that they cannot accept. Therefore The Tablet have it all wrong, there is nothing in this letter that constitutes a disagreement with traditionalists.

I have not got involved with that question (though for the record, I agree that Archbishop Nichols says nothing that we cannot agree with) for me the question is different.

What I want to know is why is Archbishop Nichols suddenly laying down the law with the traditionalists but not with anybody else? As was said elsewhere, he wouldn't begin a conference on the scriptures by banging on about the dangers of private interpretation. He hasn't said anything about Terry Prendergast.

I don't deny his right to say what he has said, but why does he exert his authority in a discriminatory manner? In this respect The Tablet editorial has it spot on: Archbishop Nichols is sending the Traditionalists a clear message that he is in charge and he wants things doing his way.

A message you will be hard pressed to find him sending to anybody else.

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Agellius said...

The Archbishop writes, "The view that the ordinary Form of the Mass, in itself, is in some way deficient finds no place here. Indeed anyone who holds such a view does not come under the generous provision of ‘Summorum Pontificum’. Such a person is inexorably distancing themselves from the Church."

And the view that the Extraordinary Form is in some way deficient? Do people who hold that view also "inexorably" distance themselves from the Church?

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Sadie Vacantist said...

If it isn't deficient:

Why another translation?

Why do priests continually change the form?

Why the SP?

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Bertrand said...

James, you could make the same point without engaging in mockery of a bishop. This "Little Vinny" stuff, the sarcastic "what a guy"... please, for the sake of your soul, read St Catherine of Siena on the proper attitude to take to ecclesiastics who fail in their responsibilities. I understand that you are angry, but there is a middle way between contumely and pretending that nothing's wrong. The truth must be loved and defended, but we must not sacrifice means to ends.

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