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Catholic Youth Quango

Blogged by James Preece on 12th October 2009

The Oxford English Dictionary defines "quango" as follows...

quango

noun (pl. quangos) Brit., chiefly derogatory a semi-public administrative body with financial support from and senior appointments made by the government.

— ORIGIN acronym from quasi (or quasi-autonomous) non-governmental organization.

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There is something distinctly dishonest about quangos. The government love them because they allow them to wield power and authority without messy little details like responsibility.

They are funded (at least in part) by the government which places them at least partly under government control and when it suits them they tend to carry the weight governmental authority, although when it suits them they are distanced. So one week Gordon Brown will be proudly bragging about the billions he has sunk in to youth development projects and the next week he will be saying that something wasn't his fault, it was those pesky folk at the independent commision for something-or-other.

I bring this up because while everybody has been all distracted with the visit of the Relics of St Therese, I've noticed the discreet birth of a quango for Catholic youth work in England and Wales.

The official Catholic Bishop's Conference agency for Catholic youth work was Catholic Youth Services until it was quietly dismantled under mysterious circumstances last november. At that time we were told that "research is to be carried out to determine the current provision for youth ministry within the Dioceses, and directions for further development" and that "This work will be carried out by an Interim Youth Ministry Co-ordinator under the supervision of Bishop Kieran Conry, within the Bishops' Department of Evangelisation and Catechesis"

So for the time being, the Catholic Bishop's Conference of England and Wales has no official agency for Youth Work.

Sort of...

This is where the quasi part kicks in...

The Catholic Youth Ministry Federation. Very official sounding don't you think? Read the blurb on their website...

The Catholic Youth Ministry Federation (CYMFed) exists to help shape and support Catholic Youth Ministry in England and Wales.

CYMFed is made up of 32 Dioceses and Catholic organisations working with young people in England and Wales. Within this federation there are numerous staff and volunteers - the ‘on the ground’ practitioners of youth ministry - who work with over 30,000 young people each year.

CYMFed is recognised and supported by the Catholic Bishop's Conference of England and Wales.

I always thought that the Bishops Conference is the Dioceses of England and Wales coming together but, oh, silly me. Apparently when individual Dioceses pay people and those people come together "recognised and supported by the Catholic Bishop's Conference of England and Wales" that's something different and it's definitely not an agency of the Bishop's Conference.

A very cosy arrangement...

Elsewhere the CYMFed website reads...

CYMFed’s organisation is run by the principle officers of each diocese and organisation, who meet three times a year, and the Board which meets regularly. Bringing together the ‘on the ground’ practitioners of those working with young people in a Catholic context, CYMFed is the single most experienced and qualified body in the UK to hold, protect and further the vision of youth ministry.

So the usual suspects wander around playing the "supported by the Bishop's Conference card" which they will use to great effect to get all the sisters and brothers to come along and then when they get carried away and do something outrageous and people write to the Vatican the Bishop's Conference can say "Not me guvner".

Like I said, there's something distinctly dishonest about a quango. It's not an agency of the Bishop's conference but it sort of is, depending on what is convenient at the time.

They are organising a conference, sorry, a "National Congress for Catholics working with young people" this February. I wouldn't want you to think it's got anything to do with the Bishop's Conference of course, but Archbishop Vincent Nichols will be there.

What could possibly be wrong with something Archbishop Vincent Nichols supports?

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E F Pastor emeritus said...

very good and much needed post!

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ronan said...

Are you sure it is a quango, and are you saying it's partly government funded? It has a pretty poor website with no information on who set it up or who is funding it, and it gives no idea of what you get for £12.50. Srsly, tho, mate, you ought to be asking them for a job. If they've got govt (i.e. your tax) money to supposedly 'shape and support' your Church, then you have a right to a chunk of the pie. You are, after all, a prominent voice of Catholic youth. Take your CV along with you to the conference and nag them for a grant to support your blog, or for some paid work in one of the papers. After all, they want to 'support all those looking to connect young people with the Church'. Maybe they can get you on the speaking circuit with Fr Radcliffe OP!

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James said...

Hi Ronan,

CYMFed is not funded by or associated with the UK Government. When I say they are a quango I mean that they occupy such a position within the Church rather than within the Government.

In terms of what funding they get and where it comes from, it's difficult to say. I don't suppose it's cheap to fly speakers over from the states...

As for them supporting this blog... That's very funny. I think they would rather see it closed down.

James

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Ronan said...

Hi James
In that case the same logic still applies, except they're using the money we put on the plate of a sunday instead of tax money. We have some sort of a say in how that is used to 'shape' our church. I don't know about whether they would like to shut you down - do you say that because they are part of the tabletista crew? Such defeatism may be self-fulfilling. As a young catholic voice you have not only a right but a responsibility to engage with these sorts. If you don't say what you say, who else will?

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ronan said...

woops, i mean 'congress'!

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catholic mum said...

I scanned your post for the words we usually see; 'consulted with'. I'm glad they weren't there as I bet they have not gone anywhere near those who have been forming Catholic youth for years. If you ask a Catholic youth what has inspired them, it's usually home, a particular priest or one of about 6 bodies.

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David Beresford said...

Hi James,
I am the chair of CAYMA (Catholic Association of Youth Ministers and Advisors), this is a network of people who are employed to work with young people within the Catholic Church. As chair of this association I have a seat at CYMFed and was a part of the process of CYMFed being created. I currently live in Brentwood diocese but work in A&B diocese and was originally born in Hull.
I wonder if I can answer any questions you may have about CYMFed or CAYMA for that point.
Both of these bodies have young peoples needs at their heart and are full of really really committed and faithful people.
It feels like it would be good to connect some more of our marvellous church together.

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James said...

Hi David,

Many thanks for your comment and your kind offer to answer any questions I may have about CYMFed.

I'll send you an email when I've got some questions together.

James

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