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Sunday 19 Jul 2009

Golden Chalices

Blogged by James Preece 7 Months ago...

Golden boy Archbishop Vincent Nichols (who can do no wrong, so long as we don't mention Catholic Education) is quoted in the newsletter of the Parish down the road...

Archbishop Nichols wrote a postgraduate thesis on John Fisher which used the phrase: "The Church doesn't need any more golden chalices, it needs golden priests." [Reminds me of something Bishop Terry said after his visitation here!].

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What was it the Bishop said?

...a new set of chalices might be in order to enhance and add even more dignity to the liturgy.

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That's what you call selective hearing...

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Saturday 20 Sep 2008

When is a Mass not a Mass?

Blogged by James Preece 1 Year ago...

From the Holy Cross Parish Newsletter...

Mass intentions for the coming week:

Sat 20th 6.30 pm Fred Knapp Thurs 9 am Harold Ward

Sun 10 am Pat Hyland Fri Holy Name 9.15 am Bill Kemp

Holy Name 11.30 am Chris Herbert Sat 9 am The Parishioners

Mon 9 am Service of the Word and Holy Communion 6.30 pm Mary Jones (RIP)

Tues 7 pm Service of the Word and Holy Communion Sun 10 am Jill Kemp

Wed 9 am Michael Whincop (A) Holy Name 11.30 am Fred Higginson

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Spot the two pseudo Masses? Service of the Word and Holy Communion. So let's see, there are readings and then people receive communion. No danger of confusing that with Mass then!

The Church does allow non-ordained faithful to lead celebrations on a Sunday...

In some places in the absence of priests or deacons,(90) non-ordained members of the faithful lead Sunday celebrations. In many instances, much good derives for the local community from this useful and delicate service when it is discharged in accordance with the spirit and the specific norms issued by the competent ecclesiastical authority.(91) A special mandate of the Bishop is necessary for the non-ordained members of the faithful to lead such celebrations. This mandate should contain specific instructions with regard to the term of applicability, the place and conditions in which it is operative, as well as indicate the priest responsible for overseeing these celebrations.

It must be clearly understood that such celebrations are temporary solutions and the text used at them must be approved by the competent ecclesiastical authority.

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My understanding of this, is that it refers to parts of the world where there is an absence of priests. I'm thinking remote African villages where a priest visits twice a year if they are lucky. I'm pretty sure it doesn't refer to weekday masses, but, let us be generous in our interpretation. Let's imagine it refers to a part of Hull where there is a priest living in a presbytery next to the Church. Let's imagine it includes days when there is no obligation to attend mass. Let's imagine "absence of priests" means "several priests within driving distance"

"A special mandate of the Bishop is necessary for the non-ordained members of the faithful to lead such celebrations"

It would be distinctly ungenerous to interpret the whole paragraph as referring to weekday masses and then pull a 360 when it comes to the mandate from the Bishop saying, "oh yes, but that's only for Sundays".

Has there been a special mandate from the Bishop?

I'm going with.... um.... let me think... No.

No, Because there's nobody would be so daft as to write to the Bishop saying: "Dear Bishop, Sorry to bother you but I don't want to cancel my weekday Masses and I haven't actually asked any of the priests in my area if they can cover but would it be okay if lay people ran a service instead? What's that? Sure, I'll send some texts over for you to approve right away."

What's happening here is "Women and married men can't be priests so let's try to find a way for them lead services and give out communion". Then we can 'prove' that women and married men can do these things just as well as a celibate priesthood.

The whole thing stinks.

I hope that the other priests of the West Hull deanery will ask Fr Pat about this and perhaps pass on their concerns (if they have any) to the Bishop.

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Monday 23 Jun 2008

Shocking

Blogged by James Preece 1 Year ago...

So, once again I find myself. Mass at Holy Cross Cottingham. Oh no! Not a blog entry about Cottingham! James! Don't do it!

It was First Communion at Holy Cross and it took two hours. Two Hours! Doesn't Fr Pat know that mass is supposed to be One Hour!?!?!!? If it's a normal mass you pad it out with hymns and a long homily to make it take an hour. If there's a lot to do you rush it to make it fit in the hour. It's the Rules. The mass lasts 1/24th of the day and if mass were supposed to take longer than an hour then God would have put the earth further from the Sun.

In case you missed that one, I was being sarcastic or ironic or something. I don't think mass should take exactly an hour. It should take as long as it takes. Fr Pat is right to take the extra time to make sure these children's First Communion is a big deal.

But James... I don't get it. I thought you didn't like Fr Pat?

Er... Did I say that? What I said is that I disagree with some of the things he does. If you can't tell the difference between disagreeing with some of what a person does and disliking a person then I don't like you.

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Tuesday 25 Dec 2007

Wigilia

Blogged by Ella Preece 2 Years ago...

Come the first evening star in the sky and what happens? In the Polish tradition Wigilia begins... a table is set with a white cloth over a bed of hay, symbolising the hay in the manger and the white cloth Mary swaddled Jesus in. The oplatek is in the center of the table and we all take some of it and wish good tidings and blessings to each other as we share it. Leona loved the oplatek. Traditionally you have 12 dishes of fish but we only have 3 courses, one of fish and our table did not have hay undter it but we did lay the oplatek on hay. This year grandad was with us aswell, he seemed to enjoy it. We then open presents, being part English part Polish we open the prezzies from Polish relatives on the eve and the English ones on the day. After watching Blackadder christmas carol (not a traditional Polish activity) we went to midnight mass with my dad to Holy Cross. Fr Pat talked about the gifts the three wise men brought and how sometimes we can be given gifts that we are not sure how to use, but also the lambs brought by the shepherds... maybe a meal for Mary and Joseph, an apparently more useful gift, but showing us the importance of remembering those who are less fortunate than oursleves, the shepherds themselves were poor but gave what they could. We thought of those who were homeless but also those who have no-one at this time.

We all played with the band, a timeless classic run by Arther and Kathleen, it was great to see Gwedalin and Dermot there too. Kathleen occasionally got carried away when she forgot how many verses she had played and I am sure the congragation had found the hymns before Arther had anounced it she "whispered" them too him so loudly :o)

Christmas day though we were back and forth like yo yo's the day did not go by too fast and we got to see everyone and we did not feel like we were rushing too much, we had a wonderful christmas day!

Boxing day came and as is traditional we went to see the morris dancing at Brantingham, it was all really good and I was encouraged to join the garland side, which Nat goes too. By the time that ended we went back to my parents for dinner and a few games. Tommorrow I think we will have a day in!

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Thursday 20 Dec 2007

St Mary's Carol Service

Blogged by Ella Preece 2 Years ago...

It is that time of year again it seems to arrive so quickly!! We were all there with our trendy black folders which you could only just fit all the music in, in a rather cunning manor!

The head opened the service with some nice words and then on with the carols which were interspersed with several readings. James was dissapointed that there was only one reading from scripture but the others were themed with the preparation and waiting of advent. The reading about The Indescribable Gift was nice focusing on Jesus coming to forgive and save us, a really good link between Christmas and Easter which come hand in hand. We sang a few classic carols. with the senior choir singing harmonies which James said sounded good (naturally he is an expert in this) Kevin seemed to be enjoying himself and it was certainly a job well done.

Both the two pieces performed by the senior choir and the one by the junior choir sounded wonderful. I think the choirs have been excelling themself more and more and I will really miss singing with them, maybe I can pop back every now and then. Kevin did not look like we were strangling a cat so it can't have been that bad. Kevin also tried to test our lung capasity with some of the endings! I was worried I would flake out but we had time to recover between readings :o) It is also nice to sing parts to the carols, maybe I can dazzle them round the christmas table when we sing a few this christmas.

Fr John said the last two blessings and then Fr Pat jumped in with a surprise blessing... one of the sixth formers (you may remember him for Joseph) had said that he had been in the school for 7 years (and he was rather involved) and it would be nice to have a special blessing. I have to agree, particularly those students who stay right through, they are a member of our christian community and the school prepares them for the trials ahead, particularly trials as Cathoilcs. Fr Pat did a celtic blessing and it was very apt talking of being the light (and witness) of Christ. It is important to remember that we do not only think of our sixth form (and GCSE students leaving for pastures new) on the day they leave. At the start of the Churches caledar it is only right to start them on their journey into the real world where they are to take Christ with them.

As with these things there is always the worry that you have a story from I dont know... the donkeys point of view, but this evening proved to be a beautiful way to celebrate advent. Well done All.

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